My mom almost died of an acute respiratory event when her COVID suddenly took a turn for the worst. Her primary care doc of 20 years refused to have a televisit with us since it was COVID. A doc from her church made a visit and prescribed a corticosteroid along with ivermectin and zithromax. She took them about 5 pm. A few hours later, she told me she felt like she was dying, something she's never said in her life. But the next morning she woke up at 6 am and was unloading the dishwasher. I texted the home doctor and told him what happened. He said that was happening to every patient he treated. He had been retired, but came out of retirement just to treat COVID patients. He had treated over 150 people with outpatient care and not one ended up needing to go to the hospital.
If they suppressed evidence about an acute cure, you can be certain they've suppressed off-patent cancer meds which threaten their billion dollar industry! Here is a cool story about one such cure:
This link was a great story - made enchanting reading - on the old humble Fenbendazole saving a 1000 terminal cancer patients, completely eliminating their cancer. I have commented more extensively on your fastwell.substack. Please respond with your views. In the 2000 odd drugs in use now, from many different indications, some decades old, we have enormous multi use potential, that can change the whole face of medicines and treatments in this century. But it is a massive research.
I was VERY “Lucky”. We used off-label drugs to treat Patients. We had a Pharmacist that didn’t give A Damn. Rock and Roll. We were prudent and Wise; but, flew under the radar. I know of 6 Patients that I personally talked out of self termination just because I cared…Here is My home phone number.🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️, Ed
A disgrace, as is much of the suppression of existing drugs. What can possibly go wrong if you give them? Not a lot.
I have made the point before that the RECOVERY trial simply proved what was already known, and was thus a waste of time (as well as resulting in the delay in using steroids in Covid). If the severe illness is caused by an immune overreaction (or cytokine storm if you prefer) then steroids are the best immediate treatment. The decompensation of severe sepsis also has features of a hyperimmune state. Whenever the MS patients on my rehab unit became septic, they got steroids with their antibiotics. Often elsewhere in my hospital they did not, because of the fixed idea that giving people steroids if they have an infection will make the infection worse. But the severe elements of a septic state are nothing to do with the bug itself, whatever it may be.
In posts through 2020 and 2021 I tried to compute the number of deaths that would have been prevented if steroids had been immediately introduced in April/May. In the UK I believe it runs into thousands. One also has to wonder whether Derek Draper, Kate Garraway's husband, might have been less sick if given them - though I don't actually know if he was or wasn't but the family should ask that question if they don't know.
Perhaps Dr. Bamji can explain. So much planning and work went into Recovery trials, essentially designed to save those seriously sick and under the risk of deaths. Why did not those medical planners and researchers did not think of preventing the people from reaching that stage, with existing medicines which would safely and comfortably address most known symptoms ? The first line they read in their medical education is “prevention is better than cure”. Perhaps they threw away their book of those first lessons. Where is the imperative that you have to treat a new virus only with a new anti viral ? Where was the clinical judgment of those doctors, of assessing known symptoms and addressing them ? Why did their thought process clouded so poorly then, so as to let thousands and thousands of infected ride their luck with just acetaminophen and water in those first few days ? The collective failure of the whole every day medical community through out the world in 2020 just baffles me.
In response to your first question I have no idea. I wrote to Whitty, Vallance and Hancock with a schedule of investigations and treatment based on existing management of a cytokine storm, which is what I perceived the problem to be. I pointed them at the textbook, which described steroids and tocilizumab, and which noted that CSS had many triggers, including, gasp, coronaviruses. It was all there and I told them. You will not be surprised to learn I had no response from any of them. To be fair, none of them were real clinicians. And most real clinicians had not grasped the pathogenesis, because they had never seen a case of CSS (actually I suspect they had, but didn’t recognise it). I offered my expertise. Being retired I had all the time in the world to join SAGE. I was ignored. Look at the makeup of the SAGE committee and see if you can spot a proper clinician. Wrong experts means wrong decisions. That is the lesson that should underpin the Hallett Inquiry. But I’m not sure how to get in front of it to say my piece. I submitted my evidence in November 2022 but apart from an acknowledgment of receipt I have heard nothing.
Unlike since 2023 when I have begun communicating extensively via these podcasts, giving invaluable opportunities to interact with committed doctors like you, in 2020-22 I used to be writing frequently only to some newspapers, both national (India) and some international, letters to the editors. I used to lament that how this whole pandemic was botched by many national medical administrations, sometimes special Covid action committees, that were all led by NON-CLINICIANS. Mostly virologists and epidemiologists, they had no idea of the disease pathology. Their only focus was preventing spread mainly use of vaccines. They had no idea how simple early treatments saved serious illness, deaths and even spread. This included the WHO. If only clinicians had taken charge early on, the pandemic would have died by end 2020. Precisely what happened in severely hit countries like India since mid 2021, where the medical administrations withdrew from any oversight, unlike in the West. We are literally this virus free for two years now. Under more enlightened medical administrations, clinicians like you would have saved thousands and thousands.
Here is an experienced doctor speaking. Well, it wasn’t difficult to see why the Recovery trial was scuttled half way through. When there was 35% benefit with mild doses of Dexamethasone, what was wrong in trying for improved results with higher doses ? . Did an expert say that it doesn’t make sense worrying about a future infection going out of hand as a result of higher doses of steroids, when the situation of lower doses not being able to save great many deaths was unfolding before your own eyes ? Only after saving the present, does the future make any sense.
Great as the work of Dr. Meduri on the usefulness of corticosteroids for ARDS and later for Covid was, I wish he had concentrated his research on early treatment options for respiratory viral infections with old school respiratory medicines, particularly importance of combination prescriptions. The example given of her mom by Leslie Taylor is revealing. Surely her mom went into the auto immune syndrome on the 8-10th day, having not taken any symptom related/ anti viral medications in the previous days of the viral phase. Luckily the pastor doctor knew exactly what is required - a combination of Azithromycin, Ivermection and cortico steroids. That combination had all the armoury needed for the situation - anti viral, anti bacterial, anti inflammatory, immune modulatory etc. That is how her overnight recovery miracle happened. Just a single drug may not have been adequate and if lucky would have prolonged her recovery. Coming back to Dr. Meduri, it is a surprise he chose not to work on the early viral phase, where steroids are contra indicated. It was like trying to catch a horse by its tail after letting it bolt. Yet the work was very important and should have served as a guideline for many many oridinary doctors around the world when they switched massively to early treatments with known medicines in 2021, of which Azithromycin, Ivermectin, Montelukast and Corticosteroids were the workhorses that banished this virus from their midst. As a retired organic chemist with medicinal reading only an interest, if he is willing and open, I can interact with him on the possibility of hundreds of drug molecules from different indications in wide use can be anti viral against respiratory viruses. Many of them could work against many known such viruses and thus offer a quick, cheap, effective widely available option in medical emergencies like this pandemic. Enough background work already exists. They have to be formally brought on the table for deployment after necessary confirmatory research.
Dr. Kory, You mentioned that Ivermectin and Quercetin do interfere each other so that you recommend to take them separately. Please tell me how they interfere each other. I take Taxifolin DHQ instead of Quercetin. Does it interfere too? I tried to find if you explain it somewhere but so far I can't find it. Thank you very much.
It’s hard to wrap ones mind over this cruel act, and only to aid the pharmaceutical giants at the expense of human lives. You spoke about the use of corticosteroids at the beginning of the pandemic. At that time you said that ridiculously low doses were used and were therefore ineffective. Now it seems that the medical practice can say, well yes we did use these and they failed just like we stated in the past for these type of respiratory illnesses. And then of course we turned to the vent, Remdesivir, and the infamous Covid jabs. What will they claim the benefit were of the later? Will they cook up false positive results? And to this day, has anyone bothered to update this deadly Covid protocol? My guess would be no…
My mom almost died of an acute respiratory event when her COVID suddenly took a turn for the worst. Her primary care doc of 20 years refused to have a televisit with us since it was COVID. A doc from her church made a visit and prescribed a corticosteroid along with ivermectin and zithromax. She took them about 5 pm. A few hours later, she told me she felt like she was dying, something she's never said in her life. But the next morning she woke up at 6 am and was unloading the dishwasher. I texted the home doctor and told him what happened. He said that was happening to every patient he treated. He had been retired, but came out of retirement just to treat COVID patients. He had treated over 150 people with outpatient care and not one ended up needing to go to the hospital.
If they suppressed evidence about an acute cure, you can be certain they've suppressed off-patent cancer meds which threaten their billion dollar industry! Here is a cool story about one such cure:
https://fastwell.substack.com/p/an-odd-cure-for-incurable-cancer
This link was a great story - made enchanting reading - on the old humble Fenbendazole saving a 1000 terminal cancer patients, completely eliminating their cancer. I have commented more extensively on your fastwell.substack. Please respond with your views. In the 2000 odd drugs in use now, from many different indications, some decades old, we have enormous multi use potential, that can change the whole face of medicines and treatments in this century. But it is a massive research.
Dr. Makis had a promising cancer treatment center pulled in Alberta Canada in a similar way. This is what the establishment does.
I was VERY “Lucky”. We used off-label drugs to treat Patients. We had a Pharmacist that didn’t give A Damn. Rock and Roll. We were prudent and Wise; but, flew under the radar. I know of 6 Patients that I personally talked out of self termination just because I cared…Here is My home phone number.🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️, Ed
Edit - Yes, there were tears, hugs and smiles.
GOD BLESS YOU and the Pharmacist!
thank you Joyce, and also for all your work with the FLCCC.
This story leaves me breathless. Yet again.
Time to name names of those who sold their souls to Big Pharma.
A disgrace, as is much of the suppression of existing drugs. What can possibly go wrong if you give them? Not a lot.
I have made the point before that the RECOVERY trial simply proved what was already known, and was thus a waste of time (as well as resulting in the delay in using steroids in Covid). If the severe illness is caused by an immune overreaction (or cytokine storm if you prefer) then steroids are the best immediate treatment. The decompensation of severe sepsis also has features of a hyperimmune state. Whenever the MS patients on my rehab unit became septic, they got steroids with their antibiotics. Often elsewhere in my hospital they did not, because of the fixed idea that giving people steroids if they have an infection will make the infection worse. But the severe elements of a septic state are nothing to do with the bug itself, whatever it may be.
In posts through 2020 and 2021 I tried to compute the number of deaths that would have been prevented if steroids had been immediately introduced in April/May. In the UK I believe it runs into thousands. One also has to wonder whether Derek Draper, Kate Garraway's husband, might have been less sick if given them - though I don't actually know if he was or wasn't but the family should ask that question if they don't know.
Perhaps Dr. Bamji can explain. So much planning and work went into Recovery trials, essentially designed to save those seriously sick and under the risk of deaths. Why did not those medical planners and researchers did not think of preventing the people from reaching that stage, with existing medicines which would safely and comfortably address most known symptoms ? The first line they read in their medical education is “prevention is better than cure”. Perhaps they threw away their book of those first lessons. Where is the imperative that you have to treat a new virus only with a new anti viral ? Where was the clinical judgment of those doctors, of assessing known symptoms and addressing them ? Why did their thought process clouded so poorly then, so as to let thousands and thousands of infected ride their luck with just acetaminophen and water in those first few days ? The collective failure of the whole every day medical community through out the world in 2020 just baffles me.
In response to your first question I have no idea. I wrote to Whitty, Vallance and Hancock with a schedule of investigations and treatment based on existing management of a cytokine storm, which is what I perceived the problem to be. I pointed them at the textbook, which described steroids and tocilizumab, and which noted that CSS had many triggers, including, gasp, coronaviruses. It was all there and I told them. You will not be surprised to learn I had no response from any of them. To be fair, none of them were real clinicians. And most real clinicians had not grasped the pathogenesis, because they had never seen a case of CSS (actually I suspect they had, but didn’t recognise it). I offered my expertise. Being retired I had all the time in the world to join SAGE. I was ignored. Look at the makeup of the SAGE committee and see if you can spot a proper clinician. Wrong experts means wrong decisions. That is the lesson that should underpin the Hallett Inquiry. But I’m not sure how to get in front of it to say my piece. I submitted my evidence in November 2022 but apart from an acknowledgment of receipt I have heard nothing.
Unlike since 2023 when I have begun communicating extensively via these podcasts, giving invaluable opportunities to interact with committed doctors like you, in 2020-22 I used to be writing frequently only to some newspapers, both national (India) and some international, letters to the editors. I used to lament that how this whole pandemic was botched by many national medical administrations, sometimes special Covid action committees, that were all led by NON-CLINICIANS. Mostly virologists and epidemiologists, they had no idea of the disease pathology. Their only focus was preventing spread mainly use of vaccines. They had no idea how simple early treatments saved serious illness, deaths and even spread. This included the WHO. If only clinicians had taken charge early on, the pandemic would have died by end 2020. Precisely what happened in severely hit countries like India since mid 2021, where the medical administrations withdrew from any oversight, unlike in the West. We are literally this virus free for two years now. Under more enlightened medical administrations, clinicians like you would have saved thousands and thousands.
Here is an experienced doctor speaking. Well, it wasn’t difficult to see why the Recovery trial was scuttled half way through. When there was 35% benefit with mild doses of Dexamethasone, what was wrong in trying for improved results with higher doses ? . Did an expert say that it doesn’t make sense worrying about a future infection going out of hand as a result of higher doses of steroids, when the situation of lower doses not being able to save great many deaths was unfolding before your own eyes ? Only after saving the present, does the future make any sense.
My treatment for CSS? 1gm methlyprednisolone IV daily for 3 days.
It's almost as if they want us sick, huh?
We know how to cure COVID. There's just one problem... We don't dare.
To your health, Tracy
Author: A New Theory of Cure
Great as the work of Dr. Meduri on the usefulness of corticosteroids for ARDS and later for Covid was, I wish he had concentrated his research on early treatment options for respiratory viral infections with old school respiratory medicines, particularly importance of combination prescriptions. The example given of her mom by Leslie Taylor is revealing. Surely her mom went into the auto immune syndrome on the 8-10th day, having not taken any symptom related/ anti viral medications in the previous days of the viral phase. Luckily the pastor doctor knew exactly what is required - a combination of Azithromycin, Ivermection and cortico steroids. That combination had all the armoury needed for the situation - anti viral, anti bacterial, anti inflammatory, immune modulatory etc. That is how her overnight recovery miracle happened. Just a single drug may not have been adequate and if lucky would have prolonged her recovery. Coming back to Dr. Meduri, it is a surprise he chose not to work on the early viral phase, where steroids are contra indicated. It was like trying to catch a horse by its tail after letting it bolt. Yet the work was very important and should have served as a guideline for many many oridinary doctors around the world when they switched massively to early treatments with known medicines in 2021, of which Azithromycin, Ivermectin, Montelukast and Corticosteroids were the workhorses that banished this virus from their midst. As a retired organic chemist with medicinal reading only an interest, if he is willing and open, I can interact with him on the possibility of hundreds of drug molecules from different indications in wide use can be anti viral against respiratory viruses. Many of them could work against many known such viruses and thus offer a quick, cheap, effective widely available option in medical emergencies like this pandemic. Enough background work already exists. They have to be formally brought on the table for deployment after necessary confirmatory research.
Dr. Kory, You mentioned that Ivermectin and Quercetin do interfere each other so that you recommend to take them separately. Please tell me how they interfere each other. I take Taxifolin DHQ instead of Quercetin. Does it interfere too? I tried to find if you explain it somewhere but so far I can't find it. Thank you very much.
The perpetrators of these atrocities are guilty of crimes against humanity, and should be sentenced accordingly.
It’s hard to wrap ones mind over this cruel act, and only to aid the pharmaceutical giants at the expense of human lives. You spoke about the use of corticosteroids at the beginning of the pandemic. At that time you said that ridiculously low doses were used and were therefore ineffective. Now it seems that the medical practice can say, well yes we did use these and they failed just like we stated in the past for these type of respiratory illnesses. And then of course we turned to the vent, Remdesivir, and the infamous Covid jabs. What will they claim the benefit were of the later? Will they cook up false positive results? And to this day, has anyone bothered to update this deadly Covid protocol? My guess would be no…